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🗓️ 18 February 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to this throwback episode of Our Fake History. |
0:13.0 | This week I am throwing you back to season one and episode number 24, did Ty Cobb kill a guy? |
0:22.8 | In this episode, we explore the difficult, some might say, monstrous legacy of the turn-of-the-century baseball legend Ty Cobb. |
0:36.0 | Now, this episode originally dropped on July 4th, 2016, and my, oh my, has the world |
0:45.9 | changed since July 4th, 2016. I think this episode captures an interesting moment in the conversation that we were having about problematic historical figures. |
1:01.2 | This episode came out before the Me Too movement. |
1:04.9 | It came out before the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020. |
1:09.9 | It came out before we were reevaluating the legacies of many |
1:14.9 | historical figures in the wake of all the revelations we had seen about high-profile people |
1:20.6 | living in our society right now. It's been a wild nine years. I think we can all agree. With that in mind, this episode has a certain |
1:31.8 | naivete about it. In this episode, you'll hear me talk about racism, hate crimes, and all sorts of |
1:40.6 | violence with a certain lightness that I'm not sure I would bring to it today. |
1:47.5 | In the end, though, I stand by my thesis at the heart of this episode, which is that difficult, |
1:55.3 | even loathsome people need to be understood with a certain degree of nuance. I truly believe that no one is |
2:04.2 | all good or all bad. Now, that doesn't mean we should let people off the hook or even forgive people |
2:10.9 | for particularly nasty things that they have done over the course of their lives. But human lives are complicated and that should never be forgotten. |
2:21.3 | Listening back, I found myself freshly annoyed by the sports writer Al Stump, |
2:27.8 | who invented many of the worst slanders about Ty Cobb. |
2:33.4 | Stump was a charlatan and an opportunist who profited off of the |
2:39.2 | monstrous reputation he created for Ty Cobb. He has done a disservice to history because now |
2:48.3 | it's harder than ever to get to the heart of who the real |
2:52.5 | Ty Cobb was. If Ty Cobb ultimately deserves to be condemned by the opinion of history, |
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