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Our Fake History

OFH Throwback- Episode #24- Did Ty Cobb Kill a Guy?

Our Fake History

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Education, Talk Radio, Society & Culture, History

4.73.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this throwback episode Sebastian take you back to Season One and Episode #24. Ty Cobb has been remembered as one of baseball’s greatest villains. Despite being universally recognized as one of the game’s most talented players, Ty Cobb is mostly remembered as a violent racist who was hated by all who knew him. However, a new biography is claiming that Ty Cobb’s reputation was unfairly tarnished by an unscrupulous biographer looking to make a name for himself by exposing the “real Ty Cobb”. Was Ty Cobb really the monster that so many believe him to be? Tune in and find out how forged letters, pistol whippings, and Tommy Lee Jones all play a role in the story.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to this throwback episode of Our Fake History.

0:13.0

This week I am throwing you back to season one and episode number 24, did Ty Cobb kill a guy?

0:22.8

In this episode, we explore the difficult, some might say, monstrous legacy of the turn-of-the-century baseball legend Ty Cobb.

0:36.0

Now, this episode originally dropped on July 4th, 2016, and my, oh my, has the world

0:45.9

changed since July 4th, 2016. I think this episode captures an interesting moment in the conversation that we were having about problematic historical figures.

1:01.2

This episode came out before the Me Too movement.

1:04.9

It came out before the Black Lives Matter protests of 2020.

1:09.9

It came out before we were reevaluating the legacies of many

1:14.9

historical figures in the wake of all the revelations we had seen about high-profile people

1:20.6

living in our society right now. It's been a wild nine years. I think we can all agree. With that in mind, this episode has a certain

1:31.8

naivete about it. In this episode, you'll hear me talk about racism, hate crimes, and all sorts of

1:40.6

violence with a certain lightness that I'm not sure I would bring to it today.

1:47.5

In the end, though, I stand by my thesis at the heart of this episode, which is that difficult,

1:55.3

even loathsome people need to be understood with a certain degree of nuance. I truly believe that no one is

2:04.2

all good or all bad. Now, that doesn't mean we should let people off the hook or even forgive people

2:10.9

for particularly nasty things that they have done over the course of their lives. But human lives are complicated and that should never be forgotten.

2:21.3

Listening back, I found myself freshly annoyed by the sports writer Al Stump,

2:27.8

who invented many of the worst slanders about Ty Cobb.

2:33.4

Stump was a charlatan and an opportunist who profited off of the

2:39.2

monstrous reputation he created for Ty Cobb. He has done a disservice to history because now

2:48.3

it's harder than ever to get to the heart of who the real

2:52.5

Ty Cobb was. If Ty Cobb ultimately deserves to be condemned by the opinion of history,

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