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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Offset and the State of Hip-Hop in ATL. Plus, Trump’s Ceasefire in Iran

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.711.5K Ratings

🗓️ 10 April 2026

⏱️ 131 minutes

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Summary

Van and Rachel react to the shooting of the rapper Offset before welcoming HuffPost’s Akbar Shahid Ahmed to discuss the latest on the conflict in Iran. Then, actor Mark Kassen joins to discuss his newest film, ‘PH-1.’ (0:00) Intro (1:10) Jake Paul and blackface (7:11) Offset’s shooting (10:33) The state of Atlanta hip-hop (17:12) Akbar Shahid Ahmed joins the show (43:45) Kanye and the cancellation of Wireless Fest (51:59) Peak white mess: Mike Vrabel and Dianna Russini (59:25) Rachel vs. the AKAs (1:07:35) Mark Kassen joins the show Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guests: Akbar Shahid Ahmed and Mark Kassen Producers: Donnie Beacham Jr. and Jade Whaley Social Producer: Bernard Moore Video Supervision: Chris Thomas and Jacob Cornett Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.

0:10.3

What is up?

0:11.8

Higher learning is on is Ivan Lathan Jr.

0:13.6

And it is me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:15.5

Two guests.

0:17.3

Akbar Shaheed Ahmed.

0:19.1

He's going to talk to us about Iran.

0:21.0

It's all caught up.

0:21.8

What's going on over there?

0:23.3

Mark Hassan.

0:24.3

Mark Hassan, my friend.

0:26.4

Political thriller.

0:28.2

Out.

0:28.8

Premier.

0:29.5

Well, by the time you guys get it, it'll be out.

0:32.2

But pH 1, we have a great, use the word you love to use, robust conversation, not just about the movie,

0:40.2

but also just about the political landscape.

0:43.7

Nice back and forth there.

0:44.8

Nice back and forth.

0:46.1

Those two interviews are pretty lengthy and in depth.

0:51.3

There's stuff to talk about, but most of this other shit

0:53.9

is bullshit.

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