On a special episode of Bet the Process Podcast,

Rufus has his long-awaited dream of having met Matt Keff

on the Bet the Process podcast, sadly after he's already been on Spanky's podcast.

And we chat a lot about the Pinnacle model versus the William Hill model.

And we even talk a little Tiger Woods Phil Mickelson match future. So with that, let's start the process.

Bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet the process. Welcome to the podcast.

Bet the process. It's not the typical cookie cutter nonsense. If you came just for picks, you're in the wrong place. Find a town with the narrative to make a strong case. Instead of blindly assuming a team must be tanking. We're looking for the edge of Masy P body rankings, crunching all the numbers in a simulator system that break down the data analytically driven media coverage

and sports gambling is pathetic.

Welcome to another episode of the Bet the Process podcast where we have a very special guest

on, Matt Metcalf from, this is a guy that Rufus every week, he's like, we should have

Matt Metcalf on.

We should have Matt McCaff on.

And the bane of my existence is that we had him on right after Spanky did. So like Spanky scooped us. It took us that long to

get him on. So welcome, Matt. Thanks for joining us. And what I wanted to actually go on the

diatribe was we were prepping for this interview and and I actually

listened to your interview with with Spanky just to sort of like get some background and get

some thoughts on things we wanted to talk about and Rufus keeps asking me like hey what do you

want to ask him hey what are your thoughts what do you want to ask him like just fucking put

some stuff into our Google doc and send it to me and And he's like, what, what doc, which doc?

I'm like, any doc you can share with me, just put it there and we can share it and we can

start talking about it.

And he sends me a fucking picture of a pad of paper where he wrote six questions down and

...