Already, gang, what kind of week would it be on the active self-protection podcast?

If I didn't bring you an ad for Palm Pepper Spray, this week will be no different.

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Well, already, gang, welcome back to the active self-protection podcast.

I am, as always, your host, Mike Mike Williver and I remain your favorite former Fed.

With me today, another former law enforcement officer. His name is Jay. Jay lives in Southern Alabama.

He's been married 31 years and has two children and a grandkid, by the way. So we share that in common. Two grandkids. See, me and Jay are Sympatico. He is a retired sergeant from a police department and was a canine handler at one point. Jay, how are you, my friend? I'm good, buddy. It's honored to be on your show. Once again, um, once again, technical difficulties rule the day. So we had to schedule this like 37 times, but we're finally, we're finally getting it done. and I'm really excited about this story. I think it's going to be a fantastic one. And do you,

do you, do you happen to know, Jay, did John say he was going to take your video and put it up on the channel, or was it up there already? Or what was the situation with that? How I met you was, uh, y'all did a podcast on me in 2022. Okay. We got a few, you know, you just went off the information that you could see on the video and several little things weren't true. So I thought I'd reach out to you and see if I could get, you know, rectify myself on answering questions on the podcast. Absolutely. This is, this is my favorite thing. Um, and I say during a lot of our, we do these badge cam dash cam break downs, surveillance cam sometime. And I'm the one in on the law enforcement. Not all of them, but most of the law enforcement related ones. And I always say, look, we're breaking this down. Our analysis is based on the video, maybe news stories, court documents, or whatever, but we can't really get a whole picture of what happened without talking to people that were actually there and actually involved. Because there's so many tiny little nuances that you can't possibly expect to know. Like, my favorite one is when you see a cop coming in hot on somebody, it's like, is this his first time dealing with this guy?

Because that could happen.

Right? Yeah, sir.

I'm excited to get down to the detail.

So you were in law enforcement in 31 years.

Was that mainly as a local L.E. State County?

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