OFF THE RAILS: Rand Paul beef with Markwayne Mullin adds surreal layer to bizarre hearing
The Briefing with Jen Psaki
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🗓️ 19 March 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, there was quite a competition from the clown car on Capitol Hill today between the nominee to lead the Department of Homeland Security, this guy, you can see him right there, Mark Wayne Mullen. |
| 0:10.2 | We're going to talk about him a lot tonight, and the current director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, on who could be more evasive, more uninformed, and really more sycophantic, which may be what it's all about. |
| 0:24.2 | And then tonight, we got an unexpected late entrance into that competition from the attorney general. |
| 0:30.7 | Because Pam Bondi just held a closed-door briefing on the Epstein files that went so badly that |
| 0:36.6 | Democrats on the House Oversay Committee walked |
| 0:38.9 | out of it. And they walked down. You can see them on the left there, Congressman Garcia |
| 0:42.9 | right there. They walked out with steam coming out of their ears. Pretty pissed off. |
| 0:48.1 | Congressman Maxwell, Maxwell Frost, he was there. He was in that meeting today. He's hustling |
| 0:52.2 | over to the studio and he's going to tell us exactly what went down and what happens from here, most importantly. But I do want to start |
| 0:58.2 | tonight with those two hearings on Capitol Hill today. That really, it happens at pretty much |
| 1:02.6 | the exact same time. You could have got popcorn out, coffee, snacks, all the things. Tulsi |
| 1:07.1 | Gabber testified as part of a Senate intelligence hearing on worldwide threats. |
| 1:11.1 | Just one day, of course, after her top deputy resigned in protest over Trump's war with Iran. |
| 1:18.0 | So there was that. |
| 1:19.4 | Now, around the corner, another part of the Capitol, Mark Wayne Mullen was testifying in his Senate confirmation hearing. |
| 1:26.6 | And that Mullen hearing kicked off with an |
| 1:29.0 | absolutely bonkers exchange between the DHS nominee and the committee's Republican chairman, |
| 1:35.4 | Randolph. I sort of Republican on Republican nerdy but aggressive food fight. And just to give you a sense |
| 1:42.7 | of what an unmitigated disaster this was, |
| 1:45.1 | I want you to watch this moment from Fox News. When the conservative network gave a play-by-play, |
| 1:50.1 | they were basically giving a play-by-play, like it was a boxing match, and then abruptly, |
| 1:54.0 | they cut away as soon as the fighting started. |
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