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To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Off The Map

To The Best Of Our Knowledge

Wisconsin Public Radio

Prx, Philosophy, Knowledge, Wpr, Ttbook, Wisconsin, Society & Culture

4.7844 Ratings

🗓️ 9 December 2023

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Maps, whether drawn by hand or by satellite, reflect the time they were drawn for. How will the next generation of cartographers deal with challenges like a world being reshaped by climate change?

Original Air Date: December 09, 2023

Interviews In This Hour:

Why are islands in the South Pacific disappearing? — Cartography in the age of Google Maps — This is your brain on maps — The mysterious music of the 'phantom islands'

Guests:

Lagipoiva Cherelle JacksonMamata AkellaBill LimpisathianAndrew Pekler

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey friends, it's Anne.

0:05.3

Remember what maps were like when you were a kid?

0:08.0

On the super highways of modern America.

0:10.7

Those complicated folds and mysterious symbols, paths you could follow across deserts or into faraway mountains.

0:17.6

Meet Jimmy Rollins of Seattle on his way to Washington, D.C.

0:21.6

Maybe even to buried pirate treasure.

0:23.8

Gee whiz.

0:25.7

Well, maps have grown up since then.

0:28.2

Today, Google Maps makes finding everything from an obscure coffee shop to that buried treasure

0:33.1

as easy as pie.

0:35.5

But at what cost?

0:37.3

What does it mean to have an entire generation navigating with GPS?

0:42.3

And that's not the only thing the 21st century is brought to cartography. For the first time in history,

0:47.7

we're taking land off the map. Entire islands in the South Pacific have been lost forever thanks to climate change.

0:56.0

Today, unto the best of our knowledge, off the map. Keep listening.

1:04.2

Wisconsin Public Radio. It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anne Strangeamps.

1:20.9

In this hour, we're going to be talking about cartography, about maps, which have been largely unchanged for a long time.

1:30.2

But here in the 21st century, something new is happening.

1:35.0

For the first time in history, we are taking land off the map.

1:40.8

In the South Pacific, entire islands have disappeared, thanks to climate change.

1:47.0

Here's Samoan journalist Lani Poeva Shirel Jackson.

1:53.0

Langi Poeva means the sky of nine nights, so Lange is sky, poor is night, and Eva is nine, sky of nine nights. So Lange is sky,

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