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Kind World

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Kindness, Uplifting, Profound, Society & Culture, Stories

4.61.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2015

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Sasha Chanoff was in his mid-20s when he faced an urgent decision unlike any he'd encountered before - and more than 100 lives depended on it.

Transcript

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0:00.0

My boss called me into his office in Nairobi and handed me a list with 112 names on it.

0:07.0

He said, Sasha, I want you to go into the Congo to get these people out. This story takes place in February 2000. Congo was at war. The

0:19.2

extremists who were responsible for the Rwandan genocide

0:22.8

had gathered their forces in the Congo.

0:25.6

The Congolese president said that all Tutsis in the country

0:29.6

are the enemy and need to be hunted down and killed. People were being killed in the streets

0:35.8

in terrible ways. My name is Sasha Chanoff. I live in Somerville, Massachusetts.

0:44.8

I'd only been in Africa for about six months.

0:48.5

My boss is David Dirthic at the time,

0:51.8

and he was spearheading this U.S. rescue operation.

0:55.0

David said to me, above all you have to stick to this list. You cannot take anybody

1:01.2

who's not on this list.

1:03.1

If you try to add more people, the Congolese government,

1:06.2

you're gonna have to get their permission,

1:07.8

and then at the last minute,

1:09.0

maybe even on the plane, they'll pull your people off

1:11.4

and you won't get anybody out.

1:14.0

David also said that he was sending in his right-hand woman.

1:18.0

Her name was Sheka.

1:20.0

So Sheka and I flew into the capital of Congo. We rented a car and we drove out to this safe haven.

1:28.0

These big black doors swung open and we drove in.

1:32.0

Somebody looked in the car and saw her and then this whole mob of people

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