Hello, hello, it's Kristen.

And as you can tell, I don't sound like I normally do.

I am sick.

But lucky for you, I had something already recorded and prepared to go.

I just needed to record this intro.

Last year, I did an episode that was totally unscripted with some other podcast friends,

and it went over really well, and I really enjoyed doing it.

So I thought I'd

bring you a couple more conversations this year, starting with this one. So I sat down with my friend

Javier from Pretend and Sean from Sins and Survivor's podcast to create a special holiday

crossover episode where we just let our guard down and talk shop. And if you like it, I have a couple more coming this month,

as well as another regular episode.

So without further ado, and so I can stop talking,

here is OffScript.

Pretend, murder she told, and sins and survivors spill the tea.

The T. Hey, guys, it's me, how here. I'm the host of the pretend podcast. So if you don't recognize my voice, that's because you're also listening to this on

murder she told with Kristen or sins and survivors with Sean.

Thank you so much, guys.

This is my second year of doing this podcaster, true crime podcaster, cross-collaboration

during the holidays.

And I'm so looking forward to this conversation. Same. I really enjoyed it last year. And because my show is so

straightforward and serious and scripted, I feel like my audience doesn't really get to hear a lot of

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