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Welcome to the knife off record. I'm Hannah Smith. I'm Pasha Eaton. And today, Hannah, I have a story for you.

I can't wait to hear it. Yeah, it's actually a story that we had talked about briefly a couple of months ago, but I couldn't find, you know, I made a bunch of phone calls and didn't find the right person to speak with about it, but wanted to tell you what I found out. Okay, great. So it's July of 2008, and we're in North Little Rock, Arkansas. It's

characteristically hot and muggy outside, and accompanied by her husband, a woman named

Cindy Bebeca walks into Lays Med Inc.

Okay.

Cindy is there for cancer treatment.

Cindy has breast cancer, and she's traveled all the way from her home in Powder

Springs, Georgia to North Little Rock for an appointment with Dr. Antonella Carpenter.

Okay.

And Dr. Antonola Carpenter has promised to cure Cindy's cancer.

So, yeah, when I hear someone's traveling across state lines, like my mind first goes to

to see a specialist or someone who is, you know, particularly good at treating your type of cancer.

Is that the situation?

It is the situation that Dr. Antonola Carpenter has

promised to cure her cancer, but no, she is not a specialist, and she is not a medical doctor.

She's going by doctor. She's going by a doctor. So Dr. Antonololo Carpenter, as she calls herself,

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