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Criminal

Off Leash

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.739.4K Ratings

🗓️ 23 February 2024

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

“I never did anything wrong. I never had a speeding ticket. I think I just saved all my stuff up for just one thing.” We speak with Toby Dorr, who started a prison dog training program in 2004. That’s how she met John Manard.  This episode was originally released in 2019. Criminal is on tour this month! We're telling brand new stories, live on stage. You can even get meet and greet tickets to come and say hi before the show. Tickets are on sale now at thisiscriminal.com/live. We can’t wait to see you there! Say hello on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Sign up for our occasional newsletter, The Accomplice. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts: iTunes.com/CriminalShow. Sign up for Criminal Plus to get behind-the-scenes bonus episodes of Criminal, ad-free listening of all of our shows, members-only merch, and more. Learn more and sign up here. Listen back through our archives at youtube.com/criminalpodcast. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for Criminal comes from Apple Podcasts.

0:03.8

Sometimes you get an urge to look back at your past,

0:06.4

and the decisions you regret or the connections you lost.

0:10.1

And you start to wonder, what if things have gone differently?

0:14.1

Heavyweight is a podcast that looks into that question and tries to make things right.

0:18.7

Listening to a single episode, you can laugh, cry,

0:21.1

reflect on crossroads in your own life,

0:23.2

or even find the closure you might be searching for.

0:26.2

Listen to heavyweight right now on Apple Podcasts.

0:32.1

Hi, it's Phoebe.

0:34.3

Whenever people ask me about my favorite past episode of Criminal,

0:41.1

and they ask me a lot, I always have one answer.

0:50.4

So while we were deciding what episodes we wanted to share with you, while we're out on our 10th anniversary tour this month, of course we had to include this one.

0:56.3

Thank you very much to all of you who came out and saw us live. We had a lot of fun.

1:01.3

We're wrapping up our tour and we'll be back next week with brand new episodes of Criminal.

1:04.9

But for now, enjoy off-leash.

1:13.0

Hi, my name is Toby. I am better known in the media as the dog lady of Lansing Prison.

1:18.9

You know, people get themselves in predicaments in life, but you really got yourself in one.

1:25.7

I did. I did. And, you know, I was a perfectionist. I never did anything wrong. I never had a speeding ticket. I never didn't stop and count for three

1:29.7

seconds at a stop sign. And so I think I just saved all my stuff up for just one thing.

1:34.7

I mean, if you're going to go big, go big. I guess so. Toby Dorr was born in 1957. She got

1:43.8

married when she was 20 and raised two boys.

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