I'm Courtney Robertson, the most notorious villain in Bachelor History, and I have more

than a few secrets to tell, but I am not the only one with T2's build. Every week I'm

going to be talking to another icon of reality television about the things they can only say.

Off-contract.

Hi guys, it's Courtney Robertson with Off-Contract here. I'm your host.

Today a dream comes true for me, as I'm joined by a living legend, somebody who redefined

what was possible in the game and helped alter the trajectory of the Bachelor forever. After

decimating the competition with her visionary style of play in the pre-IG era, she's the

co-host of the almost famous podcast with season 20 Bachelor Ben Higgins. She finished a

night place on the Bachelor season 19 after one of the most memorable two-on-ones in history.

She was a stand-out all-star and VIP season two and three and winner of the only season

of the Bachelor Winter Games. Please welcome someone who is firmly cemented in the conversation

about the greatest players of all time. Ashley, I can not do it.

I can't even respond to that. I have never been so flattered in my entire life that is seriously

this way beyond kind and I will humbly...

I only want to order this.

Just thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the sweetest intro that anybody could ever imagine.

And so much of it is not true, but it's very kind to hear you say that.

Carl, I've been watching you from the beginning and I have so many questions for the beginning.

That's one of my...

That's one of my season, you know?

That's one of my questions. I'm so happy to have you here. We've met in person a handful

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