So welcome to your bonus Friday edition of Offair with Jane and Fee. We've got an important one for you today.

Our guest on the live show during the week was Rachel D'Souza, the Children's Commissioner,

coming in to talk about her latest report, which details the parlour state of the relationship

between childhood and the online world. She says this report is amongst the most sobering,

my office has ever published. It paints a stark picture of what childhood looks like in 2025, with an online

world that is in many ways completely unfit for children. Now, we should put out a little warning

that what we talk about during this interview isn't going to be gratuitous or detailed in any

disgusting manner. But obviously, if you've got little ears listening

and you think that there are going to be questions that you don't want to answer or things

that you would like not to be in your head or their head, then this one might not be for you.

But actually everything that Rachel told us during the interview is highly relevant,

especially to our role as adults and parents trying to look out for our children in the best

possible way. And as we talk about in the interview, you might think that ignorance is bliss,

but actually at the moment is probably incredibly dangerous. I started by asking Rachel

to just paint a bit more of a picture of where

we are at the moment. Two years ago, as we were getting ready for the Online Safety Act and

the Online Safety Bill, I did a piece of research basically to find out when 16 to 21-year-olds,

who are the generation who've really lived with

the online world, when did they first see porn, what kinds of things were they experiencing,

what effect did it have on them? I've repeated that now. And I'm afraid, I call it rock bottom,

because the results of my most recent survey really show that it's getting very much

worse. It's not getting better. So what did we find? We found that about 50% of young people

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