OFF AIR... EXTRA
Off Air with Jane & Fi
The Times
4.6 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 6 June 2025
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to another Friday special. This week's bonus episode features an interview with campaigner Zelda Perkins, a former assistant to Harvey Weinstein, originally broadcast on our Times Radio afternoon show (2–4 pm, Monday to Thursday).
Zelda was the first woman to break a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) in 2017—an agreement she had signed decades earlier with Harvey Weinstein. She brought the systematic abuse of NDAs to the attention of the British Government and international press, giving evidence at two parliamentary inquiries that uncovered an epidemic of misuse. Her testimony also prompted the Solicitors Regulation Authority to take disciplinary action against the lawyer who had drafted the NDA for Weinstein.
Since 2017, Zelda has been campaigning for legislative and regulatory reform in the UK. In September 2021, she co-launched the global campaign Can’t Buy My Silence with Canadian co-founder, Professor Julie Macfarlane.
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| 0:55.6 | Music Uncomplicated. Learn more at freshworks.com. Hi, this is Jane, and this is a Friday bonus ball edition of the off-air podcast with Jane and Fee. |
| 1:01.4 | And you're about to hear an interview with, I think, somebody that you will probably have heard of. |
| 1:05.4 | You should certainly really admire her and the efforts she's making in this area. |
| 1:10.3 | It's Zelda Perkins, who was an assistant to Harvey Weinstein. And she is now a vocal critic of non-disclosure |
| 1:14.9 | agreements and someone who really wants to stand up for people who blow the whistle, who go to |
| 1:20.9 | the authorities and say, what I've seen in my workplace is not right and I want it to stop. It's not easy to do and Zelda has been addressing |
| 1:30.5 | the issue at the South by Southwest Conference in London this week. Really what we're discussing |
| 1:36.1 | is the increasing importance of whistleblowing as power is less and less being held to account |
| 1:41.3 | and things are moving more into the hands of small groups of very wealthy and powerful tech people, |
| 1:49.0 | particularly. |
| 1:50.5 | And that, particularly in the tech industry, speaking up about anything, is one of the hardest places. |
| 1:57.1 | Because that's actually where the use of NDAs kind of started in Silicon Valley to protect |
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