On the afternoon show this week, we felt it incredibly important to try and broaden the discussion

about what's happening regarding the Epstein files. And there is plenty of opportunity elsewhere

in the media for you to read all about the downfall of incredibly

powerful men. The stories of the women who were involved in Epstein are often incredibly

dark and disturbing and perhaps places that we don't want to go to, but they're very, very

important stories to hear. So we invited onto the program journalist Vicky Ward.

Now, she has been an investigative journalist for the last 30 years or so, and in 2003,

she was commissioned to write a long read profile piece of Geoffrey Epstein for Vanity Fair.

She wanted to include in that piece the stories of two women

who had made allegations of abuse against him.

She then found herself in a difficult position

because guess what, Geoffrey Epstein didn't want that published.

We joined the interview with her as she explains more about what ended up being in that final piece.

Very good afternoon, Vicki.

Thank you for your time.

Can you just tell us a little bit more about what happened with that piece?

Yeah, of course, and thank you for having me.

You know, what happened with that piece?

You know, it's fairly straightforward, actually.

Maria and Annie Farmer told me what had happened to them at the hands of Jeffrey Epstein and Gillesne Maxwell.

I spoke, and they went on the record.

So did their mother. So did a well-known artist, Eric Fischel, and so did a fairly well-known businessman at the time.

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