Welcome to our special bonus edition on Friday of off air.

We try and pop something in this little nook that we have put out on the radio show.

And yesterday we had a real treat of an interview.

It was with Catherine Sachs Jones, who is the head of Become, which is the national charity supporting children and young people with experience of the care system. And Jess, a really, really remarkable young woman who has moved out of care during her mock A levels when she was just 17 years old in year 12.

Take it away, ladies.

Now, it is hard enough in a young person's life when school comes to an end.

Maybe somebody in your house is just getting over A levels, trying to decide what comes next.

It's a scary adult world to be stepping into right now. So imagine if you're

also trying to cope with leaving the care system. Well, the National Care Charity for Young

People, Become, has found that children are being moved between homes or schools or out of care

altogether in the lead up to and even during exams, often without any notice.

Catherine Sacks-Jones is the head of become and Jess joins us too on the program.

Jess has moved out of care during her mock A levels when she was in year 12, so just 17 years old.

You're both very welcome on the program.

Catherine, can I start with you?

And just perhaps you could outline to us the system that these young people are in

and what's happening to them when they're approaching the end of the care system and their adult life?

Yeah.

Well, what our research found was that 15,000 young people each year are being moved Ditha during their

GCSE or A level years. And the reason for that really is a couple of things. But one, the care

system is completely overwhelmed. There are very high numbers of children in care and there are

just not enough places for them to live. So that means for children they're facing really high levels of instability. So often moving

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