Of lice and men
Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe
iHeartPodcasts
4.7 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 9 July 2026
⏱️ 54 minutes
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Daniel and Kelly explore what lice can teach us about human evolution, and the role lice have played in some of humanity's most devastating wars.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Hart podcast. |
| 0:03.0 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.9 | Howdy, Extraordinaries? Today we're discussing human lice. |
| 0:09.1 | If you're a parent, you may be at the stage in your life where you're worried about kids bringing home lice from school. |
| 0:15.1 | But back in your wilder days, if you had wilder days, there may have been another kind of lice, found out a different |
| 0:23.5 | part of the body that you worried about. Maybe it made you feel, let's say, crabby. We're talking |
| 0:31.0 | about both kinds of lice today and some historically catastrophic diseases that lice frequently caused in the past. |
| 0:39.8 | So decide if this episode is appropriate for you or young ears that might also be listening. |
| 0:46.7 | Thanks. |
| 0:52.6 | When you grab a lice comb and spend hours picking through your kid's hair to remove those little buggers, |
| 1:01.6 | you're engaging in a time-honored human tradition that stretches for millennia. |
| 1:07.7 | Direct evidence of human head lice goes back 10,000 years, and we found 6,500-year-old head lice combs in Egypt. |
| 1:17.5 | But we've probably had head lice even earlier than that, perhaps even since the dawn of our species. |
| 1:24.0 | So if this pest has been with us during our entire journey as a species, |
| 1:29.5 | then can studying it tell us anything about our past? |
| 1:33.1 | Or can studying it at least tell us how to get rid of it better? |
| 1:37.3 | Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's lousy universe. |
| 1:40.4 | Music universe. |
| 1:54.7 | Hi, I'm Daniel. |
| 1:59.1 | I'm a particle physicist who likes to think about aliens, and my family has had lice more times than I can count. |
| 2:01.6 | Hello, I'm Kelly Weiner-Smith. I study parasites and space. And my family has never |
| 2:07.1 | had lice, but we have had fleas. Not even once in a lice time. |
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