Hello and welcome to another episode of the fully charged plus podcast very very excited

to have you join me for this particular episode because this is someone I've wanted to speak

to for many years on the podcast and haven't managed to arrange it until now. This is Greg

Jackson who is the boss and the founder of Octopus Energy in the UK, one of the most remarkable

energy companies. We've had Fiona Howarth from Octopus on the show a few other times, but

Greg is the kind of the monster brain behind the whole thing, amazing guy. He'll tell us

a little bit about how the whole thing came about, but it's a fascinating discussion about

the big the big energy picture and he dispenses with a couple of I think quite potentially quite

damaging myths about alternatives to using fossil fuels directly, specifically hydrogen. So

if you're interested in the hydrogen debate, this is definitely worth listening to about

using hydrogen to heat homes. How sensible is that idea? I look forward to you hearing that

and I look forward to your responses to that. But he's a charming and delightful man, really

really wonderful to listen to. But just before we start with lovely Greg, please let me just

mention briefly in passing our wonderful sponsor, My Energy, who I am very proud to say I use

their products on a daily basis and have done for many years and I'm really proud and grateful

for them to sponsor the fully charged plus podcast. I'm just going to, I've said it many times

but I just want to quickly list the three products that they currently produce, but with

a caveat that they are about to launch a lot more and I'm not allowed to talk about them

yet, but from what I've heard, not seen it, not experienced it directly from what I've

heard, amazing, really clever pieces of technology that once installed in your house, you kind

of forget are there, but they are hugely beneficial and will become increasingly so with more

expensive, challenging energy environment that we all live in. You know, you want to take

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