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Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

October 31st - Eurostar gets competition from London to Paris and beyond from Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Trains

Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

The Independent

Places & Travel, Leisure, Society & Culture

3.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 4 minutes

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Summary

After airlines, domestic railways and a cruise line, the bearded billionaire is set to bring better service and lower fares on international trains to the Continent – but not until 2030.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to today's independent travel broadcast with East Side and

0:03.8

it's Friday the 31st of October and at last some good news for those of us who would love to travel

0:11.7

by train through London to Paris Brussels and Amsterdam but are constantly deterred by the fairs

0:19.0

Virgin trains yes Sir Richard Branson's group, has been given

0:24.6

permission to launch trains, which will take place, we hope, in 2030. Five years might seem

0:31.6

a ridiculously long time, and I would have to agree with you about that. But that, unfortunately,

0:36.9

is a reflection of how long it takes to get the trains to be built, certified, tested and so on.

0:44.2

The limiting factor has actually been space at Temple Mills International Depot in East London.

0:51.8

That's the only place with access to the high-speed one line that runs to

0:56.0

the Channel Tunnel, has space for such trains, and Euro-style uses lots of it at the moment.

1:04.2

There's been competitors such as Trinitalia, Evelin of Spain and the Gemini project, which would bring trains to Kent stations.

1:14.5

They appear to be out of the running.

1:16.9

But Lord Peter Hendy does say that he hopes that there will be more depot space made available.

1:23.1

Were that to happen, it would, of course, improve things.

1:26.9

So, what is this going to mean? Well, it's

1:29.4

actually bad news for the airlines, because they've been doing really quite well recently.

1:34.3

I was just looking at fares tomorrow for travelling on Eurostar. It's going to cost you a minimum of

1:41.9

£219, which is exactly 150% more than EasyJet from Luton.

1:50.3

Of course, you get city centre to city centre transport, you've got plenty of baggage allowed,

1:56.3

and it's a straightforward and generally stressed-free journey.

2:00.6

Eurostar has some good and innovative pricing under £40 at times,

2:06.8

but actually, if, like many people, you need to book fairly late,

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