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And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

Now, I guess our listeners know that we just almost always have problems with our Skype connection. Some say we should use Zoom.

And Zoom wants me to pay them money. So when they stop wanting me to pay them money for long meetings,

I will possibly try Zoom. Right now we have Skype and we're having fun trying to get connected as usual.

One of the worst problems we had, by the way, was when we had Jacques Valet on the show just a few weeks ago.

Jacques being one of the grandfathers of the Internet, couldn't get the Skype connection to work with him.

And the same time, our guest co-host, Kurt Collins, who's back with us tonight, we couldn't get his connection to work. So I don't know. We must have sent out some bad vibes. Our guest this week, Barry Greenwood, we had a little difficulty with him because his connection was coming up under a different username, which is a Microsoft

plot. Do you think Microsoft has a plot against people involved in the UFO field, Barry?

Well, it sure sounds like it because I never used that name that they had indicated was my contact.

I had an entirely different address, so it's really weird, but we're connected now.

And it's a very good connection. So we're really glad to meet you at long last. I know we've both

been in this thing for a long, long time. I don't recall that our paths have ever crossed before.

No, I don't think so.

In memory for years ago, but I remember your name.

I remember you working in the subject and all, but now we never spoke or contacted.

Of course, after this, you may decide that that was the better idea.

But all seriousness, like many of us, you got interested in the subject really young, what, 10, 12 years old?

Well, 11, right in between.

Me too.

What led you to pursue this crazy path?

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