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Hey there, my name is Brandt.

Producer Sherry is here, too.

Our phone number, if you ever want to be involved with the show, you want to call us.

You can call us 85590 Brandt is the phone number.

Well done. Thank you.

Mm-hmm.

And working on that, of course, as you know, it comes and goes.

That's the thing I get confident about it.

Yeah, I know. That's the thing.

You have to remain humble about your own phone number.

That's right.

And also, if you ever want to contact us on Facebook, it's just Brandt Hansen page on Facebook. And yes, it matters to us. We love being able to not just have it a one-way conversation anymore. That's the way radio used to be. And we like it better this way. So anyway, it's Brant Hansen page on Facebook. It's a little dangerous to talk about because I never want to come across, like, triumphant.

Like, see, my argument wins when when it comes to Jesus.

I mean, I do it as a joke in other fields, but not when it comes to serious stuff.

The Oklahoma State tragedy, there's an article in the Washington Post about how people are again returning to faith in wake of the tragedy.

Like, when don't they? I mean, in any tragic situation,

when, can you think of any tragic situation where you don't? Of course you do. Why? Well, because no

matter what it is, a school shooting or this parade incident or whatever, apparatus attack,

if you don't believe in God, you got nothing to say. That's why.

After something horrific happens, because it's only through God we have hope or that the world

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