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On the Media

October 19, 2007

On the Media

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🗓️ 5 May 2011

⏱️ 50 minutes

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0:00.0

From WNYC in New York, this is NPR's On the Media. I'm Bob Garfield.

0:07.2

And I'm Brooke Gladstone. This week, as Congress wrangles over bills to extend the administration's secret wiretapping program, some lawmakers grow increasingly frustrated by government stonewalling.

0:19.4

The White House wants Congress to grant

0:21.6

immunity to the phone companies that violated privacy laws by handing phone records over to the

0:26.9

government, but the secrecy over the spying program has placed a roadblock in front of immunity

0:31.9

legislation because, as Pennsylvania Republican Arlen Specter, minority head of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said this week on CNN,

0:40.5

I'm not going to buy a pig in a post and commit to retroactive immunity when I don't know what went on.

0:47.2

The one telephone company that isn't being sued by citizens or citizen groups for complying with wiretapping programs is Quest Communications.

0:56.3

But their former CEO, Joseph Nachio, does have other legal problems.

1:00.8

He's appealing his conviction for overstating the value of Quest's earnings.

1:05.6

Documents from Nacho's appeal suggest that Quest refused to comply with an NSA wiretapping program almost seven months before

1:14.4

September 11, 2001. George Washington Law School Professor Jonathan Turley says we should take

1:21.0

these allegations with a grain of salt because they are part of his criminal defense. But his

1:27.1

allegations are supported by other sources. We know,

1:30.3

for example, that this administration had an interest in data mining before 9-11. So in that sense,

1:37.2

he has some cooperation. It's also true that Quest seems to be the only company that vigorously

1:43.7

opposed the government's demands. His entire

1:47.5

defense was that the reason numbers were low is because when the company refused to do something

1:54.2

that they considered to be unlawful, that the NSA and the U.S. government yanked a major contract that they were relying on.

2:02.6

The court would not allow the jury to hear that defense.

2:06.5

Obviously, the phone companies continued to pretty much stonewall about the details of what they did and didn't do.

2:13.4

And AT&T and Verizon have told Congress that the White House is preventing them from talking, citing the state secrets privilege.

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