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Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

October 10th - Entry-exit system starts on Sunday – hear from Abta's EES expert

Simon Calder's Independent Travel Podcast

The Independent

Places & Travel, Leisure, Society & Culture

3.6628 Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

This weekend it's not exact all change for British holidaymakers going to the European Union and wider Schengen area – but some of us will have our fingerprints and facial biometrics taken. I've been talking to Luke Petherbridge, director of public affairs for Abta, the travel association, who – like me – has been reading EU directives and regulations on the subject for the past few years.


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Hello and welcome to today's independent travel podcast with me, Simon Gawler. It's Friday the 10th of October,

1:27.9

the final day of my stay out in Mallorca for the 2025 Apta Convention. And it's very timely

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to be talking to Luke Petherbridge, who is the Director of Public Affairs for Apta, the Travel

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Association, because in two days' time,

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