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Can I make a really, I don't know if you want me to do this on the episode, a really

posy literary comment that this is like Lauren Stern's Tristram Shandy.

Wow, that is so literary that I have no idea what you're talking about.

Okay, so you should watch the movie with Steve Coogan and Rob Bryden.

Oh God, no, no. No, you don't like them? Completely zoning out of that suggestion. Well, the novel is very, very funny. It's an 18th century novel in, I think, eight volumes. And at the end of volume one, Tristram Shandy has just been born. Yeah. And I feel like we're doing that with Octavius. Okay.

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