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Octavia Butler's Kindred

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2 β€’ 598 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 11 January 2024

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

"A hermit in the middle of Los Angeles" is one way she described herself - born in 1947, Butler became a writer who wanted to "tell stories filled with facts. Make people touch and taste and know." Since her death in 2006, her writing has been widely taken up and praised for its foresight in suggesting developments such as big pharma and for its critique of American history. Shahidha Bari is joined by the author Irenosen Okojie and the scholar Gerry Canavan and Nisi Shawl, writer, editor, journalist – and long time friend of Octavia Butler.

Irenosen Okojie's latest collection of short stories is called Nudibranch and she was winner of the 2020 AKO Caine Prize for Fiction for her story Grace Jones. You can hear her discussing her own writing life alongside Nadifa Mohamed in a previous Free Thinking episode https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000k8sz Gerry Canavan is co-editor of The Cambridge Companion to American Science Fiction. Nisi Shawl writes about books for The Seattle Times, and also contributes frequently to Ms. Magazine, The Cascadia Subduction Zone, The Washington Post.

Producer: Luke Mulhall

You might be interested in the Free Thinking episode Science fiction and ecological thinking https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000h6yw and on Ursula Le Guin's The Word for World is Forest https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b6yb37 and a playlist exploring Landmarks of Culture including Frantz Fanon's Black Skin, White Masks and the writing of Audre Lorde, and of Wole Soyinka https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01jwn44

Transcript

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Where you can also listen to live sports commentary.

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And then enjoy even more podcasts full of analysis and reaction to the big stories.

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The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession.

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And she's had to live with that.

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BBC Sounds, music, Radio, podcasts.

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Hello, she wrote wildly imaginative stories about time travel, vampires and aliens.

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She even imagined a dystopian America led by a political demagogue declaring he'd make America

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great again back in 1993. Find out about the pioneering African-American

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sci-fi writer Octavia E. Butler with me Shahed Abari just after this. I'm Tom Allen and this

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is Monsters of Music, the podcast in which we explore the scandalous lives of classical musicians

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to work out if they were angelic geniuses or grade eight monsters.

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