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The Playbook Podcast

Oct. 11, 2022: New revelations about Kevin McCarthy and Jan. 6

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

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3.9 • 699 Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2022

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

This morning we have the first scoop from Robert Draper’s latest book, “Weapons of Mass Delusion: When the Republican Party Lost Its Mind" ($29), which will be released Oct. 18. It’s been widely reported that Donald Trump and Kevin McCarthy had a fiery exchange on Jan. 6, 2021. But Draper adds a dramatic and newsworthy new detail about the House GOP leader’s side of the conversation, one that makes his later submission to Trump even more undignifying. And the latest scoop from Playbook’s own Rachael Bade and co-author Karoun Demirjian appears in The Washington Post today, sourced from their new book, “Unchecked: The Untold Story Behind Congress’s Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump” ($28), also on sale Oct. 18. Two weeks after Trump’s second acquittal, McCarthy yelled so forcefully at Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (R-Wash.) for going public about his Jan. 6 call with Trump that he made the Washington Republican burst into tears. Subscribe to the POLITICO Playbook newsletter Raghu Manavalan is the Host of POLITICO's Playbook Daily Briefing.Jenny Ament is the Executive Producer of POLITICO Audio.

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0:00.0

Presented by Black Rock.

0:03.0

Hey, good morning, Playbookers.

0:05.1

I'm Rogo Monovalin. It's Tuesday.

0:07.2

We got a couple scoops from some new books about former President Donald Trump

0:10.7

and Representative Kevin McArthur's, let's call it, tenuous relationship.

0:15.1

It's your Politico Playbook Daily Briefing.

0:20.0

We have the first scoop this morning from Robert Draper's latest book, Weapons of Mass

0:24.8

Delusion, when the Republican Party lost its mind, which will be released October 18th.

0:30.0

It's been widely reported that Donald Trump and Kevin McCarthy had a fiery exchange on January

0:34.9

6th.

0:35.9

But Draper adds a dramatic and newsworthy new detail about the House Chupy Leader's side

0:40.4

of the conversation, one that makes his later submission to Trump even more undignifying.

0:45.2

From page 64 of the chapter entitled The Enabler.

0:48.6

President Trump said to McCarthy by phone shortly before 3 in the afternoon on January 6th.

0:54.0

Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.

0:58.5

McCarthy yelled back incredulously, according to an account he gave a few hours later

1:02.4

to a Republican colleague.

1:04.1

More upset, they're trying to effing kill me.

1:07.1

Japer also reports on the history of the McCarthy-Trump relationship, including McCarthy's youthful fascination with Trump, long before he ever knew the future president.

1:16.2

Back in 2011, Draper interviewed a friend of McCarthy from his hometown Bakersfield in California, who told Draper,

1:22.9

one person that he always talked about back then was Donald Trump.

1:26.1

He talked about him all the time.

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