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🗓️ 1 July 2025
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In August 1991, Lorraine Betts set sail aboard the Oceanos as cruise director, overseeing passenger entertainment and well-being. But when the lights went out and the ship began taking on water, it wasn’t the captain who led the evacuation—it was Lorraine and a small group of entertainers who sprang into action. Today, she joins host Cassie De Pecol to share her firsthand account of the night the Oceanos sank.
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0:00.0 | Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to Against the Odds early and ad-free right now. |
0:05.6 | Join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. |
0:09.6 | A note to listeners. |
0:11.1 | Stay tuned at the end of this episode to hear my conversation with Sean Evans, |
0:15.1 | the author of How to Survive Against the Odds, |
0:18.5 | tales and tips for animal attacks and natural disasters, a new book |
0:22.6 | inspired by our podcast. |
0:28.0 | From Wondery, I'm Cassie Depeckel, and this is Against the Odds. |
1:13.9 | Thank you. I'm Cassie Depeckel, and this is Against the Odds. The Maritime Code, Women and Children First, was established in 1852, after the HMS-Burkenhead sank off South Africa's wild coast. Since then, the Birkenhead drill, |
1:20.3 | as it became known, has been a time-honored tradition in disasters at sea. But nearly 140 years later, on that very same stretch of coastline, the cruise ship, Oceanos, set sail into a brutal storm |
1:27.1 | with 571 people aboard, and soon it began taking on water. |
1:32.7 | When it became clear the ship was going down, it wasn't the captain or his senior officers who upheld the code. |
1:39.1 | Instead, it was the ship's 35-year-old cruise director, Lorraine Betts, and her team of entertainers who rose to the challenge, |
1:46.8 | organizing the evacuation, launching lifeboats, and ultimately helping to ensure that every passenger survived. |
1:54.3 | Hi, Lorraine. Thanks so much for joining me today. |
1:56.9 | Hi, Cassie. Thank you so much for having me. |
1:59.5 | So take us back to August 1991. You were 35 at the time and already an experienced cruise director. |
2:07.1 | What was life like working on cruise ships then? And what exactly did your job involve? |
2:12.8 | Well, gosh, 35 plus years ago, working on a cruise ship was a dream. I mean, we used to cruise around the world. |
2:20.2 | I worked for an expedition company, a Seattle-based company, and part-timed with this South African |
2:25.7 | company. My job involved organizing the entertainment, the passengers would be receiving the embarkation, the disembarkation, |
2:36.3 | the type of shore excursions that they would be going on, and coordinating all of that |
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