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Ologies with Alie Ward

Obsessive-Compulsive Neurobiology (OCD) with Wayne Goodman

Ologies with Alie Ward

Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.923.8K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Ruminations and reassurances. Checking and counting. Suffering and stigmas. It’s OCD, babes! OCD is now considered one of the most common psychiatric conditions, afflicting 2% to 3% of the general population, and this episode is among our top-requested topics. So we snagged a top-shelf ologist: psychiatrist, researcher, advocate and OCD Neurobiologist, *the* Dr. Wayne Goodman. We cover myths, misconceptions, diagnosis and treatment options for OCD, as well as advice for loved ones. Also: PANDAS, famous folks who are helping break the silence on it, intrusive thoughts, deep brain stimulation, genetic components, links to Tourette’s Syndrome, finding the right doctor, and the behavioral therapy that is the gold standard for OCD. And surprise! Later this week we’ll have a bonus episode on OCD lived experience with neuroscientist, mental health advocate and OCD-haver, Uma Chatterjee.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, hey, it's the bowl that's chipped, but not chipped enough to throw it away, Allie Ward.

0:04.3

This is Ologies. This is OCD. Okay, we asked y'all on Patreon your most desired episodes,

0:09.8

and this was among the top, which was both a surprise. It was also a delight to me.

0:14.7

Also a delight. We got the world's most revered expert in OCD to talk to me for an hour. This person invented the scale

0:23.5

by which OCD is measured. They've been working in this field for many, many decades and is pioneering

0:31.0

a bunch of new treatment and research for it. They studied at Boston University and Yale School of

0:35.9

Medicine. They've also been instrumental in

0:38.3

nonprofit work for OCD treatment and research. They're now a professor and the chair at the

0:43.4

Menninger Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Baylor College in Houston.

0:47.9

And if you have OCD or you know someone who does or might, their life is better because of this

0:53.5

absolute OCD icon. And just a content note,

0:57.6

of course, we talk about some parts of OCD that are distressing to people. And that's part of why

1:02.9

we're doing this to talk about it. But just a content warning up top that we do touch on self-harm

1:08.5

and some intrusive thoughts that might be a little disturbing to people. Now, I was nervous as hell to hop on this interview because I know their time is very limited, but we were able to cover so much, including questions from patrons at patreon.com slash ologies. You also can ask questions before we record. You can join that for less than 25 cents an episode. Also, Ologies merch is available

1:29.2

at Ologiesmerch.com, should you need it. And for no dollars, you can support the show just by leaving

1:34.0

a review. And I read them all, and then I pick Freshie to read, such as this one this week from

1:38.4

Michar, who wrote, if you were a kid who went to the scholastic book fairs, looking for nonfiction

1:43.6

books or fun facts books,

1:45.2

this is the podcast for you. Mish R, let's crack into the catalog. Let's get some OCD. But first,

1:51.2

also, thanks to sponsors of the show for making it possible to donate to a cause of theologist's

1:55.6

choosing. Okay, is OCD a niche condition? I would have thought so, since people don't talk about it a lot

2:02.7

unless it's an offhand punchline or like an excuse for a complicated Starbucks order. But research

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