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Too Niche?

Obsessions + Recs: June with Jessica DeFino & Emily Kirkpatrick | Summer Trend Forecast

Too Niche?

Bleav + What’s Your Journey?

Personal Journals, Leisure, Society & Culture

4.7560 Ratings

🗓️ 26 June 2026

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

Beauty critic Jessica DeFino is back with her Mess World co-host, fashion writer and Interview magazine digital editor Emily Kirkpatrick, for our monthly Obsessions + Recs episode.

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone. I'm your host, Elizabeth Cott. And when I'm not behind the mic, sharing my favorite

0:04.6

trends, obsessions, and recommendations, I lead people through creative practice. If you're

0:10.4

craving a creative reset this summer, I'd love to invite you to my signature mood board workshop

0:15.8

that's happening Sunday, June 28th at 12.30 p.m. Pacific on Zoom. Inspired by the themes and tools of the artist's way,

0:24.1

which I'm sure you've heard me mentioned before, this 90-minute workshop is designed to help you get

0:29.0

clear on your vision, intentions, and goals for the summer ahead. Using Pinterest, Canva,

0:34.7

guided prompts, and a little bit of creative magic, because why not,

0:38.0

you'll create a digital mood board that feels both inspiring and actionable.

0:43.1

Something you can keep on your phone or desktop is a daily reminder of where you're headed.

0:48.4

The workshop is 90 minutes.

0:49.9

It costs $40 and all are welcome.

0:52.8

I'd love to have you there.

0:53.8

You can learn more and sign up over at

0:55.7

Elizabeth Cott slash enroll. Now on to the show. What's up, everyone? I'm your host, Elizabeth

1:03.2

Kot, and this is To Niche, the show where every topic is a thrill and nothing is too niche.

1:09.2

This is the podcast where we follow our curiosities wherever

1:12.6

they lead through the trends, products, cultural moments, and hyper-specific obsessions

1:17.8

we can't stop thinking or talking about. Today I'm joined by two writers and cultural critics

1:24.0

whose work I always want to discuss. Emily Kirkpatrick is a fashion writer and the

1:28.8

digital editor at Interview Magazine and the mind behind the newsletter, I Heart Mess, where she

1:34.0

unpacks fashion, celebrity, internet culture, and all the mess that makes those worlds so compelling.

1:40.2

Also back on the show is Jessica Defino, a journalist and beauty critic whose work examines the beauty industry and the complicated ways it shapes our bodies and identities.

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