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Obama's Not-So-Grand Tax Bargain

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🗓️ 5 August 2013

⏱️ 8 minutes

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, August 5th, 2013. I'm Caleb Brown.

0:10.0

President Obama is pushing a grand bargain on tax reform, but history suggests that grand

0:14.6

bargains often fail to deliver promised spending cuts.

0:18.4

Jeff Myron, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, offers his thoughts. The new grand bargain that President Obama has announced in the past few days

0:30.0

involves his agreeing to a cut in the corporate income tax rate.

0:34.0

The number I've seen in the headlines has been from 35% to 28%, although that's presumably

0:38.8

up for negotiation.

0:40.5

In exchange for, Republicans agreeing to a number of policies that Democrats like.

0:45.0

One is a minimum wage hike in addition to the ones we've had recently and the others

0:50.4

are additional spending programs such as on jobs retraining and things like that.

0:55.3

So we had I guess something of a grand bargain in 1986 with regard to tax reform.

1:03.0

Tax rates did not rise, but a bunch of loopholes were eliminated,

1:08.0

and this was broadly bipartisan.

1:10.0

It was.

1:11.0

I think, the way I think about that is that Reagan cut taxes, Reagan and Congress cut taxes in the early 1980s,

1:19.0

one of the arguments was that tax cuts would starve the beast that those big decreases in revenue would force Congress to limit spending

1:26.9

It turns out that and it would be nice if that were true for libertarians but the evidence doesn't seem to back it up. So Bill Niscanin, one of Cato's

1:34.4

founders, examined this a couple decades ago and found that after Congress cuts taxes

1:40.0

within a few years it raises them back up again so they don't really cut spending they

1:44.1

just raise taxes later to make up for the lost revenue. Two economists at

1:48.0

UC Berkeley, Christie Romer and David Romer examined this again a few years

1:51.6

ago they come from a very different part of the

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