breaking down politics, culture, and the buzz of the day with bold conversations about faith,

family, and living what you believe. This is the Danielle Gill Show. I am delighted to welcome

our guest today, Dinesh. Thanks for joining us. Happy to. Well, as the expert on Obama, I wanted to start out by asking you what do you make of

obama's kind of prevalence on the scene most presidents they scale back when you're not president

anymore they move on to some other projects Obama's been doing some stuff in hollywood he's trying

to be a cultural big year but recently he's been meeting some step in Hollywood. He's trying to be a cultural figure.

But recently, he's been meeting with other world leaders.

He's been kind of reentering the scene in that much more overtly political and official manner where other governments are saying they're looking forward to work in the penit and so on.

So what do you make of that?

Well, first of all, this guy never went away, right? I mean, just look at the fact that every president of my lifetime, once they quit,

they have left Washington, D.C. Bush went back to his ranch in middle in Texas and, yeah,

in Dallas. And that's fairly typical.

Reagan went back to California. And the Clintons didn't go back to Arkansas, but they, Middle

Clinton went and set up an office in Harlem in New York. Hillary was doing her own thing, ran for

senator in New York. So Obama's the only guy

who decided, I'm not leaving. He bought a house in Calorama, which is like two miles from the

White House. I bet you if you go into that house, you would see a massive communications network.

I wouldn't be surprised if the whole Biden

administration was being run out of that house for the, for four years. So I think this guy is on a

manic project. He said it himself, his phrase, to remake America. But he knows you can't remake a big

country in, in four years or even in eight.

You need about 20 years.

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