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Brock's a fierce competitor. Anybody who's ever played basketball with him knows that.

Look, everybody who runs for office has an ego. You have to or you wouldn't put up with

the craziness that's involved. Brock wants to win and he will beat you and he will grind

it out. But if you ask him, you have a strong ego. Hey, Prasad, what do you think? What's

it look like?

Tell me about the night of the primaries. What was the atmosphere like? That was amazing.

Jim Cahley helped head up Barack Obama's campaign for the US Senate in 2004. For the majority

of that race, Obama was not the favorite. Now, I don't think I'm spoiling anything here,

but he did win. And on the night of the Democratic primary victory, Cahley and the team

paused and took it all in. When you're in something, you don't know when it's big. But

I remember sitting in the back of the room and I was like, wow, this is pretty big. I

want to talk a little bit about optics. Who did he need to be seen with and who did you

try to keep them away from? We did not want the old guard for lack of a better term on

the stage with Brock. And historically, you got to have the speaker and you got to have

every goober that's got elected dog catcher on the stage because they want their three seconds

of fame. I do remember that there were certain people of the old guard and I don't care

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