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Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

OB391: Lost Radar Procedures, Revisited

Opposing Bases: Air Traffic Talk

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4.8811 Ratings

🗓️ 1 July 2025

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Episode 391 Show Notes

 

Topic of the show: In this episode, RH and AG revisit a recent ATC radar and radio outage to explore why some facilities/pilots can’t simply "call Center" when everything fails. They break down the structural differences between co-located and remote sectors and why redundancy didn’t work as expected. We also discussed a listener’s question about what happens when multiple aircraft are on conflicting courses: who has to move out of the way.

 

Feedback

1. SGAC Patron AD asks how controllers decide who to move out of the way when a conflict requires the controller to make a move. 

 

AG and RH will be recording a live episode of Opposing Bases at AirVenture 2025, hosted by AOPA! Saturday, July 26 at 10am, AOPA Pavilion.  Join us for a live recording, audience Q&A, and plenty of laughs. After the show, we’ll head next door for a Meet & Greet at the AOPA 39 Lounge. Come say hi—we’d love to meet you!

 

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The review.

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I like the title, A Hilariously brilliant avalanche of aviation wisdom.

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Avalanche, sort of the snow and ice theme that we promote here.

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Mm-hmm.

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Five stars.

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Listening to opposing bases is like watching a penguin-themed TED Talk, hosted on a rapidly melting iceberg of mental capacity.

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Ready.

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This is a posing basis air traffic talk.

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Your host, Alpha Golf and Romeo Hotel, have a half century of aviation experience in combat helicopters, airliners, and air traffic

0:40.0

control. They answer your questions about flying aviation and ATC. This weekly podcast is for

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entertainment and education and does not serve as a replacement for a qualified flight instructor,

0:53.2

an examiner, the FARs, the 7110, your best friend,

0:57.9

your next pilot, or your cat. November 628, Charlie Delft, the Squawk 1-200, frequency change

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approved. The audio will be available on live ATC. Good day. November 643, Julie at my, clear,

1:09.6

visual prox, runway, 23 left, Conach Tower. November 3-, Julie McClure, Visual Approx, runway, 2.3 left, Connick Tower.

1:12.0

November 3-222, Yankee, area of heavy to extreme precipitation, 2 o'clock, 1 o'clock, 15 miles, 7 miles.

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3.47 Charlie, try a departure, radar contact, climbing, maintain 8,000.

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November 747 Sierra Lima, reduce speed to 1- 180 your overtaking traffic ahead on file

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Skyhawk 7 7 7 tango IFR case received walk VFR fix which a change approved

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Sierra 720 Fox try now for flatting 190 vectors for the visual approach

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Skyhawk 9 Sierra Popper to intertrag class Charlie's surface area from the east maintain

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special VFR conditions please welcome retired Army pilot Alpha Sierra Papa, clear to intertrag class Charlie's surface area from the east, maintain special via far conditions.

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