OB385: Where We're Going, We Don't Need Victor Airways

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4.8 • 811 Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Episode 385 Show Notes

Topic of the show: When Airways Don’t Intersect Sponsored by SGAC Patron BD. When your amended routing includes airways that look connected but actually aren’t, what could possibly go wrong? We break down a real-world clearance confusion, the LOA behind it, and why trusting your automation might land you in a holding pattern of regret.

Timely Feedback:

1. Patron SRS makes a great point about flying low level helicopters with NVG’s

2. Patron JB talks chain restaurants

3. SGAC JAS discusses descent planning and ATC

4. Patron RW sends audio about audio about asking ATC a question on frequency about boundary airport approaches.

Feedback

1. SGAC AM has a question about ‘interesting’ phraseology being used by ATC on a recent flight

2. SGAC Patron LS has questions for RH and AG

3. SGAC “Doc” sends ‘radical’ feedback from AME land

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0:00.0	The deeper down the GPS rabbit hole we go of, oh, I could just go direct to here and direct to there and plug all these in.
0:06.1	And Victor Airways are going away.
0:08.9	The farther we go down that path, the less people will understand how it used to work.
0:15.3	Ten years ago, this never would have happened.
0:18.2	The people that were coming up with this procedure would have said, well, what are they supposed to do at this intersection?
0:24.2	Ready.
0:33.1	This is a posing base's air traffic talk.
0:36.2	Your host, Alpha Golf and Romeo Hotel, have a half century of aviation experience in combat
0:42.3	helicopters, airliners, and air traffic control.
0:46.3	They answer your questions about flying aviation and ATC.
0:50.8	This weekly podcast is for entertainment and education and does not serve as a replacement for a qualified flight instructor, an examiner, the FARs, the 7110, your best friend, your next pilot, or your cat.
1:05.1	November 628, Charlie Delft, the Squawk 1-200 frequency change approved.
1:09.4	The audio will be available on live ATC good day
1:12.1	November 643 juliet mic cleared visual approach runway two three left connect tower
1:16.5	November 322 to Yankee area of heavy to extreme precipitation to the block to one o'clock
1:23.5	one five miles seven miles and nine three zero four seven charliead departure, radar contact, climbing, maintain.
1:29.3	November 747 Sierra Lima, reduce speed to 1-80, your overtaking traffic ahead on final.
1:35.5	Skyhawk 7-7th angle, IFR can't place and received.
1:38.2	Squawked the AFR, FRIFR, Prick, which a change, approved.
1:40.1	Sierra 720 Fox, try now for flattenting 190 vectors for the visual approach. Skyhawk Niners Sierra Popup, clear to intertrag class Charlie's surface area from the east, maintain special via far conditions.
1:50.0	Please welcome retired Army pilot Alpha Golf and the rookie first officer at Penguin Airlines Romeo Hotel.
2:10.1	It's Tuesday, May 20th, 2025, episode 385.
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