OB166: Class Bravo Operations, Part 2

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🗓️ 1 March 2021

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Topic of the show: Class Bravo VFR Operations. AG and RH break down the responses from two experienced Class Bravo controllers regarding VFR services, air work near the boundaries, and visibility on the ground in underlying non-towered airports. This is the second episode in our Class Bravo airspace discussion.

Timely Feedback:

1. SGAC PATRON Bravo Juliet shared a first-hand story of Exercise Valiant Shield. Link below.
2. Papa Tango shared his ideas on the creative use of flares on the Bonanza.
3. Alpha Charlie heard RH on radar a couple weeks ago and shared his thoughts.

Feedback

SGAC Delta Charlie Whiskey has a question about terminating radar services when the controller is busy.
SGAC PATRON Darth Pilot shared a story about VFR services in a busy Class Bravo!
PATRON Charlie Sierra has a question about missed approaches on a visual at a non towered airport. https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/regulations/how-to-fly-go-arounds-from-visual-approaches-atc/

Mentions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exercise_Valiant_Shield

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0:00.0	Many VFR pilots around Class Bravo falsely assume that AIFR aircraft are entering the Class Bravo at 10,000 feet or higher.
0:09.6	100% chance that as soon as you leave 5,000 feet or higher on an extended final approach course to our main airport,
0:18.4	we're lighting you up and making you highlighted to adjacent sectors.
0:22.2	You are now the greatest proximity threat to our feeders.
0:25.4	It sounds like hyperbole, but it happens every day.
0:28.8	Controllers love predictability.
0:30.4	The more predictable your flight path, the easier it is for us to plan around you. Ready. This is Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk.
0:46.3	Your host, Romeo Hotel and Alpha Golf have a combined 40 years of aviation experience as pilots and air traffic controllers.
0:59.2	They answer your questions and share their opinions about flying and air traffic control.
1:04.3	This show is not official guidance and should not be used as a replacement for your instructor,
1:10.1	your pilot examiner, the endless books of regulations, your favorite comedian, your neighbor,
1:11.9	your spouse, or your cat.
1:16.2	November 628, Charlie Dale, the squawk 1-200, frequency of change approved.
1:18.6	The audio will be available on live ATC.
1:19.2	Good day.
1:23.5	November 643, too late, Mike, third visual pressure, runway, 23 left, Connick Tower.
1:30.5	November 3-22-2-Yanky, area of heavy to extreme precipitation, 10 clock to one o'clock 15 miles 7047 Charlie try a departure let our contact climb and maintain
1:36.1	November 747 Sierra Lema reduce speed to 180 your overtaking traffic ahead on final
1:42.2	Skyhawk 7 7 7th angle. IFRQA cancellation receives.
1:45.2	Walk 3A, frequency change approved.
1:47.2	Sierra 720 Fox Trina Alpha flattened 190 vectors for the visual approach runway, 2 3-11.
1:52.9	Intertriad Class Charlie's surface area from the east.
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