OA98: More Sovereign Citizen Madness!

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🗓️ 25 August 2017

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If you or anyone you know has ever cared what color the fringe on the U.S. flag is, you will not want to miss this episode. Yes, by popular request, we once again tackle the wild and wacky world of sovereign citizen loons! First, though, the guys read a listener comment from Tony Wall who actually toured with KISS (!!) and can give us some insight as to Gene Simmons's copyright practices. In the main segment, Andrew walks through Gray v. Texas, a 2009 decision of the Texas Court of Appeals that delightfully debunks a great many "sovereign citizen" claims. Next, the guys answer a question from Revan, who wants to know whether criminal and civil cases wind up in the same courtroom or even in front of the same judge. Finally, we end with an all-new Thomas Takes the Bar Exam Question #38 about the admissibility of prior consistent statements by a witness. Remember that you can play along with #TTTBE by retweeting our episode Tweet along with your guess. We'll release the answer on next Tuesday's episode along with our favorite entry! Show Notes & Links

You will absolutely want to read Gray v. Texas!
And here is a link to the David Hall DUI hearing in which the judge delightfully deals with sovereign citizen nonsense.

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0:00.0	I refuse to testify on the grounds that my organs will be chopped up into a patty.
0:07.0	Ah, the 67th amendment.
0:20.0	I move for a bad court thingy.
0:22.0	You mean a mistrone?
0:24.0	Yeah, that's why you're the judge and I'm the law-talking guy.
0:31.0	Can you see Captain Blackhunter anywhere in this court?
0:35.0	That's him! That's him!
0:37.0	No more questions, sir.
0:46.0	I have an audience. I will be held in contempt of this court.
0:49.0	I have nothing but contempt for this court.
0:55.0	Welcome to Opening Arguments, a podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with a real-life lawyer.
1:00.0	This podcast is sponsored by the Law Offices of P. Andrew Torres, LLC for Entertainment purposes,
1:05.0	is not intended as legal advice and does not form an attorney-client relationship.
1:09.0	Don't take legal advice from a podcast.
1:18.0	Hello and welcome to Opening Arguments. This is episode number 98.
1:21.0	I'm your host, Thomas Smith. That over there is your other host, Andrew Torres. How are you doing today, Andrew?
1:26.0	I hope that I am doing fantastically well. If all goes correct at the time that this is airing,
1:33.0	I am going to be on a beach in the Caribbean with a drink in each of you.
1:36.0	I will have a sweet-y-work diaper in my face.
1:40.0	Probably.
1:42.0	You will have a beautiful new daughter opening argument, Smith,
1:47.0	and you will be cradling her and looking into her eyes for the first time.
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