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Opening Arguments

OA30: Little Baby Jesus in a Manger

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🗓️ 28 December 2016

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Well, it's finally here:  the last Opening Arguments of 2016.  We're looking forward to 2017 (and our amazing two-episode-per-week schedule). We begin with some announcements about Law'd Awful Movies, and then turn to Thomas Takes the Bar Exam, where we find out how our intrepid co-host did in answering real-life bar exam prep questions. Then, we answer a listener question from Jim Sabatowski about the foreseeability of one's negligence by taking a trip back to law school and talking about the crazy, fireworks-on-a-train-exploding-scale madness that is Palsgraf v. Long Island R.R.248 N.Y. 339, 162 N.E. 99 (1928). In our main segment, we tackle the confusion world of religious-themed holiday displays.  When is it okay to put a little baby Jesus on the courthouse steps?  We'll tell you insofar as the Supreme Court has told us, which... isn't always perfectly clear. In our "C" segment, we tackle yet another listener question; this one from Skeptic Sarah regarding the controversy over trademark registration for the all Asian-American band "The Slants" and their unique crowdfunding of their Supreme Court legal costs. Finally, we conclude with TTTBE #4.  Remember that you can play along by following our Twitter feed (@Openargs) and quoting the tweet that announces this episode along with your guess and reason(s). We'll see you in 2017... twice as often! Show Notes & Links
  1. Here's a link to Daubert v. Merrell Dow Pharmaceuticals, 509 U.S. 579 (1993), which will help you answer TTTBE #3.
  2. While we're at it, this is the full-text link to Palsgraf v. Long Island R.R.248 N.Y. 339, 162 N.E. 99 (1928), the case every law student knows.
  3. Lemon v. Kurtzman, 403 U.S. 602 (1971), set forth the "Lemon test" that we talk about in the main segment.
  4. Lynch v. Donnelly, 465 U.S. 668 (1984), was the 1984 case that said it was perfectly legitimate for a courthouse to display little baby Jesus in a manger.
  5. But weirdly, Allegheny County v. ACLU, 492 U.S. 573 (1989), was the case from just five years later where the Supreme Court said no, courts couldn't just display little baby Jesus in a manger, but they could display a menorah, a Christmas tree, and a liberty plaque all together.
  6. We defy you to explain the difference between Van Orden v. Perry, 545 U.S. 677 (2005), which upheld a Ten Commandments monument in Texas, and a decision handed down the exact same day, McCreary County v. ACLU, 545 U.S. 844 (2005), which struck down Ten Commandments posted on the walls out two courthouses in Kentucky.
  7. Finally, this is a copy of the Slants' Supreme Court brief, which is reasonably entertaining for a legal brief.
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0:00.0

It's a great change of his feelings.

0:04.8

Well, there could be a death penalty.

0:06.3

Nothing to lawyer.

0:19.8

Seriously, when the going gets tough, you don't want to criminal lawyer.

0:23.2

All right, you want a criminal lawyer.

0:31.0

Lady Trahan's air injector box.

0:33.4

Objection.

0:34.4

In the absence of pants, defense and suspenders serve no purpose.

0:38.2

I'm going to allow them.

0:40.0

For now, thank you.

0:45.0

I'm going to be a simple country, have a chicken.

0:48.0

But I know when we're a finger-lift, what do you say we plead insanity?

0:55.0

Welcome to Opening Arguments, the podcast that pairs an inquisitive interviewer with a real-life lawyer.

0:59.8

This podcast is sponsored by the law offices of P. Andrew Torres, LLC for entertainment purposes,

1:04.8

is not intended as legal advice, and does not form an attorney-client relationship.

1:08.8

Don't take legal advice from a podcast.

1:17.8

Hello, and welcome to Opening Arguments.

1:20.8

I'm Thomas Smith. How you doing, Andrew Torres?

1:23.8

I am doing fantastic. It is the day after Christmas as we record this.

1:27.8

I had a terrific holiday. How about you?

1:29.8

I had a great time.

1:31.8

I hope our listeners had a great time as well.

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