Today on Ovius and Jillio, the Carolina Hurricanes, they cause chaos, but they're doing so cautiously.

Plus, there's a Creed Renaissance we're going to have to explore.

Julian Council, Lockdown Panthers podcast is going to drop on by to talk about what exactly can the Panthers do to replenish their assets and go out and get better skill position guys.

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So the Carolina Hurricanes, Joe, are going to cause chaos because that's their slogan this year,

but they're going to do so cautiously.

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