Today on Ovi's in Gillio, Lauren Brownlow is hanging out while Joe Gillio is on the golf course.

Couldn't ask for a better situation because the Carolina Panthers have given Brownlow a lot to be upset about.

But who should we be upset at?

We'll get into that conversation.

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We'll also get into NC State's MJ Morris conundrum, an update on Duke's

Riley Leonard and more. Oh, G. OG. OG.

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Let's podcast alongside Lauren Brownlow. I'm Joe Obias inside the Eifford Studios, downtown Rowley. Thanks to Empire Properties. And thanks to Copiers Plus. Check them out online at copiers dash plus.com. Print management, document management, things that you think you can get a handle on, right? Lauren, like offensive play calling. You know, you're the head coach. And I'm going to do the offensive play calling too. Maybe you shouldn't. Maybe it's too much work. Maybe it is too much work for you. Maybe you should get an expert to handle it for you. In that vein, you contact copiers plus to do that for your print and document management so you can focus on the things that you need to focus on. I trust them to call a couple plays, to be honest.

That might be a subtle shot at the Carolina Panthers.

Not that subtle.

It might not be that subtle, but we'll get to that a little bit later on.

Jillio is golfing today.

It's the SaaS Media event today.

SaaS championship is right around the corner.

So he's out there golfing today,

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