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Poog with Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
Kate Berlant and Jacqueline Novak
4.8 • 2K Ratings
🗓️ 24 February 2026
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
It’s never personal, except for when it is. In studio this week, where Jacqueline’s headache is quelled with Kate’s purse pills. At hag homes, small rooms get big beds. Kate’s ass is on a pillow and her legs are against the wall. Hags must beware a tight neck. When the barista harbors a personal grudge and top hats stay hidden. Complementary schismogenesis means the martini tastes better if it was made just for you? Read a book, earn a book.
Edited and mixed by Allie Graham
Music by Naomi McPherson
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| 0:00.0 | Two best friends both alike in dignity. |
| 0:04.9 | Nurturing phantoms and courting the muse. |
| 0:07.2 | The hag divines when something must die. |
| 0:09.5 | Yes, that was poog. |
| 0:10.7 | But this is huge. |
| 0:12.2 | The ego loves to seek, but never to find. |
| 0:15.0 | It was Berlant and Novak the whole time. |
| 0:20.4 | I've been lost on Instagram twice now due to me checking it and then seeing something you send me and then going on a path. We're recording, right? Okay, great. Okay, yesterday it was, yesterday it was. Oh, well, I actually want to do an on-air. I'm ready to learn. Oh, my God. Look, you're finally doing it. You're grabbing your sternocidal master. |
| 0:38.6 | Okay, so first of all, not that I have all the answers, but oh, God. |
| 0:42.2 | Everyone knows this, because I talk about this, ad nauseum on the pod. |
| 0:46.0 | I had like 50 days sobriety from Instagram, not looking once. |
| 0:49.0 | Take a minute with that 50 days. |
| 0:50.6 | I felt reconnected with nature, poetry, my own life. |
| 0:59.5 | And I relapsed hard due to a red carpet. |
| 1:03.3 | I go, well, I got to post a carousel of that. I got it. Yeah. And now I'm just back, like a horror. I'm just back. And I've given everything. I'm spread first thing in the morning. |
| 1:08.3 | And the devil. The other day, I didn't take my phone out of the room when I |
| 1:14.9 | got up and then forgot about my phone until 5.30 at night, did a bunch of work. No, stop. But you |
| 1:20.2 | forgot about your phone. Literally, I go, oh my God, my phone has never. I didn't see my phone |
| 1:25.4 | today. My phone was in the bedroom. Like I woke up and was like, |
| 1:29.5 | you know, I'm not going to take my phone to me downstairs to get the coffee. I forgot about it |
| 1:33.3 | till till. It's so cool. And I was like, I mean, it was a tough day facing a. When you forget the |
| 1:40.8 | phone and then you go back and it's like nothing's there. So here's, well, exactly. |
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