Confession. I haven't had a resume in nearly 30 years, so I'm the last person. Anyone about to enter the workforce should or would look to for advice. But Jody Cantor is someone who's got good advice. She's been studying this for quite a while and has a new book. How to start discovering your life's work. Key ideas? Craft, need, money. No, by the way,

what to do about your parents. Jody is also an investigative reporter with the New York Times

and has recently uncovered Supreme Court memos at the heart of the so-called shadow docket.

Jody also helped uncover allegations of sexual assault involving Harvey Weinstein.

Those revelations set the Me Too movement in motion. How to launch your career? Supreme Court

Secrets. Is there a Weinstein effect now on Capitol Hill? All that with Jody Cantor on the takeout.

Jody, I promise we're going to get to the craft, the need, the money part of your book,

but I want a 30,000-foot evaluation from you about what it's like if you're in college now

trying to navigate that first job and that launch of a career.

I'll give you one word, lonely.

For anybody who hasn't looked for a job lately, I have an update for you, the process has turned digital. And so the students I'm talking to, they're dealing with gigantic job portals. They are dealing with

listings that may or may not be ghost listings, meaning they're applying for stuff without knowing

the actual job exists. They're dealing with AI interviews. A lot of them are being interviewed by machines, not by people.

And then on top of that, as you know, they're surrounded by grim news.

It's a weak hiring picture for entry-level jobs.

There is the threat of AI.

Their relatives are concerned.

Their friends are doom scrolling. I've heard of campuses

where there's like an inside joke that you don't even write the word job, J-O-B. You have to write

it in your text chain says J-Asterisk B because the word is so anxiety-inducing. So it is

digital and it is lonely and it is hard. And I wrote this book

because students, last year students asked me, how do we find and start our life's work in this

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