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this is recode media and peter kofka that is me today i'm talking to a stead herndon

a star political reporter at the new york times i wanted to see what happened when I said that out loud. And he raised his eyebrows.

Yeah, yeah. Instead is too smart and too modest to acknowledge his star status. But an easy way to gauge his fortunes at the times is that he's got his own podcast, which they do not hand out to everyone

at the New York Times covering the 2024 election. It's called the run-up. It's awesome. It covers both the big obvious players, people behind the scenes, and crucially is peppered with the voices of real voters, which we don't hear enough of. I love it. And one of the reasons I had a stead on so I can fanboy out about the podcast.

But before we get to that,

let's make a terrible podcasting mistake. enough of I love it and one of the reasons I had a Stad Hanma so I can fanboy out about the podcast.

But before we get to that, let's make a terrible podcasting mistake.

Let's talk about something that happened a couple days ago and by the time this podcast comes out will be like a week old.

This is the DeSantis Twitter launch question mark.

It's now conventional wisdom.

This was a terrible thing, terrible mistake.

Sted Herndon political expert. Does this launch matter? Does this failed launch matter in any way to DeSantis' chances?

I would say, I mean, in classic yes or no. And no. I think launches are overrated. I cover Kamala Harris's campaign for the Times. And I remember that

20,000 person rally in Oakland that I think... The vague memory of this. Yes, which was the biggest rally.

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