NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, and the economy

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Hey everyone, it’s Nilay. We’re off today, but we’ll be back Thursday, so stay tuned. In the meantime, we have an excellent episode from Business Insider Chief Correspondent Peter Kafka, who hosts the media podcast Channels. In this episode, Peter sat down with one of the biggest names in journalism: New York Times publisher AG Sulzberger. It’s a fascinating conversation that covers some of the most pressing issues facing journalism and the news business today. We think you’ll like it. Links: NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI and the economy | Channels New York Times Reports 350,000 Additional Digital Subscribers | NYT IGN and CNET owner Ziff Davis sues OpenAI | Verge The New York Times is suing OpenAI and Microsoft for copyright infringement | Verge Dow Jones CEO Almar Latour on AI, press freedom, and the future of news | Decoder Platforms need the news — but they’re killing it | Decoder Why The Atlantic signed a deal with OpenAI | Decoder Platformer’s Casey Newton on surviving the great media collapse | Decoder Credits: Decoder is a production of The Verge and part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Our producers are Kate Cox and Nick Statt. Our editor is Ursa Wright. The Decoder music is by Breakmaster Cylinder. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:56.8	hey everybody it's nilai decoder is off today but we're back on, one of the new special series that we're pretty excited about, so stay tuned.
2:04.7	In the meantime, I wanted to share this excellent episode of the channels podcast, which is hosted by my friend Peter Kafka,
2:11.0	Business Insider's chief correspondent.
2:13.3	We cover the threats to the news business here in Dakota quite frequently, especially since the new Trump administration has ushered in an unprecedented crackdown on press freedoms.
2:22.1	So this conversation with AG offers a fascinating view from someone whose family has been
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