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Alison Pataki is the author of finding Margaret Fuller, a novel.

Alison, who's been on this podcast several times and who has become a good friend on the

course of getting to know her, which is really, honestly, one of the perks of doing this

podcast is getting to know such amazing women.

Anyway, Alison Pataki is the New York Times best-selling author of Finding Margaret Fuller,

the magnificent lives of Marjorie Post, the Queen's Fortune,

the Trader's Wife, the Accidental Empress, Cece, Empress on Her Own, Where the Light Falls, as well as the nonfiction memoir, Beauty in the Broken Places, which, oh my gosh, I was obsessed with and did an event for Allison here. It was, you have to read it. And two children's books, Nellie takes New York, and Poppy

Takes Paris. I also want to read her for that.

Allison's novels have been translated into 20 languages. A former news writer and producer, Allison has written for the New York Times, ABC News, The Huffington Post, USA Today, Fox News, and other outlets. She has appeared on the Today Show, Good Morning America, Fox and Friends, Good Day, New York,

Good Day, Chicago, and MSNBC's Morning Joe. Allison graduated cum laude from Yale University with a major

in English and spent several years in journalism before switching to fiction writing. A member of the

historical novel society, Allison lives in New York with her husband and family. Welcome, Allison.

Thank you for coming back on moms and have time to read books for what, like the fourth time, fifth time. I don't even know. You're too prolific to talk now. I was wondering. I was trying to think. I don't know what time. I know last time I think we said I was the three-peat because you had had a few three-peats. So this must be the fourth. I don't know if you have a word for that. I think you're one of the, that must be one of the most ever. Frequent flyer pass, you know. We go way back, Zippy. We go way back. When we get to five, I'll, I don't know, maybe give out prizes or something. We should give prizes. No, no, no. Okay. And for anyone listening, by the way, Alison is wearing a perfectly matched shade of green to the skirt on the cover of Finding Margaret Fuller, which is a gorgeous

color, and it just is the type of detail and thought that Ali puts into all of her work. So there

you go. Okay. Tell listeners what finding Margaret Fuller is about, please.

Absolutely. So finding Margaret Fuller is a biographical historical fiction inspired by America's

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