more or less like that wasn't it from the smallest room in new york city comes a show that gives you a reason

to live and in violent brooklyn a grandmother and her beloved four-year-old grandson were poisoned

only three months apart last year. Yes, that's right.

It was a May December poisoning of sorts with NYPD homicide investigators.

Now probing the pair of bizarre and shocking family slayings.

Well, the victims were fatally dosed with thallium.

Yes, that's right.

Thallium, a tasteless and odorless product. Once used to kill vermin.

Now used to kill grandmothers and grandsons. Ah, slash daughters. Yes, grandsons.

Off to a good start. Both deaths were ruled homicides after the grandmother's body was exhumed for an incriminating autopsy.

The child's parents were in the middle of a custody battle with little Wilhelm Ducatl.

He fell suddenly ill on May 24, 2001.

No arrests. I'm sure they were both credited as COVID deaths, though.

No arrests have been made, and nobody has been deemed to suspect, but the father is not currently a focus of the

investigation. Interesting. They say nobody's been deemed a suspect, but the father is not currently

a focus of the investigation. That's a natural direction to look in.

It's the only thing I can figure.

Now, the husband of slain grandmother, taffoon man, still reeling from the deaths one year

after his wife's killing.

We'll come back to taffoon man in one moment.

First, I want to introduce you to.

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