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This is CBS, I am the world. I'm John Batcher, New York City, recovering from the pandemic,

awaiting the recession. And I welcome Harry Siegel, a columnist of the New York Daily News,

also writing for the Daily Beast, also a senior editor at the city, watching Manhattan,

and all of the boroughs for recovery. We go to remarks by the mayor and the governor

in these last days about the recovery of New York and the plans ahead for the whole city

to enjoy a sudden bounty, something consistent with the imagination of people thinking Gotham

was the city of the future. And yet, Harry, I come to you with optimism. I agree that

New York has gone through bad patches and recovered. I entered New York in the 1970s, and it

was a bad patch, Harry, and recovered, and it was glistening by the turn of the century,

and then 9-11, and then it recovered. So I don't at any point believe that it won't happen

again. And yet, the mayor is proposing one of his age, Dan Dockdorf, is proposing what

appears to be a city-wide version of the Hudson Yards. What does that mean, Harry? Good

evening to you. Hey, good evening, Jen. So the mayor and the governor, who are both

Democrats and are trying publicly to stay closely aligned, turned to Dan Dockdorf, who

was a very powerful deputy mayor, under Mike Bloomberg to co-chair this panel that's

put out a vision focused on the business districts for the, quote, for a, quote, New York. And

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