Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Muck Rake podcast. I am your co-host Nick Houselman, and Jared Yates'Exington is not with us today. He is a little bit busy, so he left me in my own devices. And of course, when that happens, I need to bring on a good friend of mine, Jason Needleman, who you probably heard before on the pod. And if you haven't, he is a professor of political science at the University of Laverne.

And right now he's also editing a book called Frameworks of Time in Rousseau coming out next year through Rutledge.

And Jason, thank you so much for come on and joining me.

Great to be here.

Thank you for having me again.

Absolutely.

Well, you're coming back because the other times have been so good and informative and layered. And in a definitely an interesting way that compliments

what Jerry likes to bring into the equation as well. But I'm excited to get into some stuff. And I think

we need to kind of jump off here with a New York Times article that was written today by the usual

suspects, Maggie Haberman being one of them, that sort of outlines what a Trump presidency in

2025 or beginning in 2025 would look like. And it sounds like you might be a little bit frightened

by what you read. Is that fair a fair assessment? I think it's like you guys talk about

on the podcast all the time. I think it's stuff that we already knew, but when you see it in print

with the specific plans, it just, yeah, kind of focuses the mind. And that's a little bit like

what they're trying to do right now with the,

with the interviewing Jared and all the people around Trump to get them to say that he knew

he lost the election. We all know that already, but it makes a difference when you see it,

you know, on paper,

through witness testimony. And this article clearly doesn't get published unless people

in and around the campaign are willing to talk to the press. And I mean, we even have this guy,

is it John McEntee, John McEntee, who, yeah, is just going on the

record saying that the plan is to essentially dismantle separations of power. He says in the article,

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