My name is Mark Vissente. I'm a director, producer, writer, and troublemaker. I'm most known as the director of the film What the Bleep Do We Know, and as one of the next-team whistleblowers featured in the HBO series, Aval. Let's just say, I know a thing or two about cults. I don't consider myself a cult expert, but I'm definitely an expert in being screwed over, waking up, and

knowing how to spot them.

And let me tell you, they're everywhere.

My mission is to help people see patterns of abuse across multiple contexts.

From personal to family, to group to societal, it's all the same pattern at every scale.

As you'll hear, I have a pretty salty approach to most things.

So there might be some blasphemy.

One or two sacred cows might get knocked over, and there'll likely be some foul language.

You never quite know what you're going to get, because it really does depend on what the

fuck is on my mind.

Hello, everybody.

As some of you who are in my Patreon know, I have been doing debriefs on some of my thoughts

about the various podcasts that people are appearing on regarding Nixium, et cetera, et cetera,

the people that are now able to talk, the people that are out of prison.

And there are a few thoughts I've been having behind the Patreon paywall and many, many thoughts that my patrons are having.

And I thought it might be good to talk to my old friend Richard Granon.

It's not that old, but we've become friends for quite a while now.

My old friend Richard Grannon to understand certain, sort of the psychological implications of some of the things that my patrons have been noticing.

So this episode is going to be sort of in two parts. The one is the public

part. And then I'm going to go to Patreon and address some of the questions that my patrons have

for Mr. Granon. Mr. Granon, you are quite popular with my people, so to speak. Just so you know.

All right.

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