using only 20% of your business data is like dating someone who only texts emojis first of all

that's annoying and second you're missing a lot of context but that's how most businesses operate today

using only 20% of their data unless you have HuffSpot where all the emails call logs and chat

messages turn into insights to grow your business because all all that data makes all the difference. I would know because I use HubSpot at my company. Learn more at HubSpot.com. I think Jim Kramer did an interview with NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang. You know what he said? So Jensen's like, I think a lot of people are misguided that, you know, people are laying off people because of AI. And he's like, why would you not try to do more with more? And so I thought this would be interesting for us to react to because you and I are, we have our organizations. We also talked a lot of our founder friends as well. We know a lot of people. And so I think it's interesting. He's like, if you're able to do more, why would you not do more? And here's the thing. Like I told you a week ago or so, I am probably clocking 12 to 14 hours a day, but I don't feel like I'm working. Like I work until my eyes hurt like hell and then I go to sleep and I wake up again and then they hurt like hell and I go to sleep. But I think the difference is, Neil, like you said you don't want to work like you did before. I don't feel like I'm working like I did in my 20s. I just feel like it's,

it's almost like when I was a teenager,

when I was addicted to video games,

and I just played into my eyes hurt. So anyway, what do you think about Jensen's quote? I agree with him. I think so there's a lot of companies that have been using A as a narrative for layoffs, Block uses it, Atlassian use it. I think it's a bunch of lies. That's just my own

personal opinion. I have no data to back this up. I don't think if you're a block, you eliminated 40%

of your employees because of AI. I think you eliminated 40% of your employees because the business

is barely growing. If you look at the last few earnings, you can see it. It's in the single digit percentile in growth. They're not doing that well from a growth standpoint. And if you had to tell the stock market, hey, we're going to lay off a lot of people because our growth isn't what we wanted. And to clarify on the growth, if you look at their December 2025 numbers, quarter over quarter from the previous year, 3.65% growth.

Annually 2025, 2025, they grew 0.3%.

2024 was 10.6%. In essence, growth has drastically been slowing down.

2022 is negative.73. 2021 blockbuster year because of COVID, right, 85%.

But the point I'm getting at is like growth has definitely

slowed down. If you're not even growing at 1%, you're, what are most of people in your organization

doing? Cut them. Like, I get it. But you can't tell the market, hey, we overhired. We thought we

were going to keep growing at 85% a year. We didn't. So we had to lay a lot of people off. That's like doom

and gloom and people are just going to crush your stock for that. On the flip side, if you say,

hey, with AI, we're more efficient. We're able to lay up 40%. That narrative sounds better to the

public markets, even though they're both doom and gloom in theory because you're laying off

humans and affecting their livelihoods. But I don't believe that AI story is true. I'm assuming you agree with that. Yeah. So my thoughts are just to respond to Jensen's quote on laying off people is misguided with AI. Like you should be doing more with more. I do agree with that point. I think yes, your best people are trying trying to do more with more guaranteed, like all the people that we talk to, right? And so I will say, though, like the AI fluency piece is also very important. Right. I think the ones to Neos point, yes, there is a whole narrative. Like I do think people overhired, they can't bring that narrative to the market. Like, you know, they have investors, shareholders and all that. But I do also think that the people that we talked about the two by two with the slop cannons, a good, you know, poor judgment is, you know, you're going to either not have a job if you're not using AI, but if you are using AI plus you have bad judgment, you're a slop canon, right? I think it's that quadrant that's unfortunately going to be cut, whereas I think the other people are going to do more with more and they're going to work harder. And I do think people get to chill more too. Like some people are going to choose to chill more. That's fine. But there's caveats to it. But I do agree in principle. Yeah. And I also believe that if you're not thinking about it in a productive way versus think about a negative doom and gloom, you're also not going to do well in this new world. Because if you just break it down from a marketing aspect, all right, and we can talk marketing divisions because Eric and I deal more with marketing than any other divisions, I don't know anyone in marketing who's like, I can't wait to fire all my people. Most people are like, I can't wait to use AI so we can get more productive, grow faster, and beat our competition. The narrative is always do more, not do less. And to do more, yes, you need AI, but you also need the humans. And a lot of people that I know in marketing are like, man, if we can do more and grow faster, then we can even scale

more, hire more people, grow faster, expand more internationally, add more products. And that's the

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