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The Proof with Simon Hill

Nutrition, Protein & Misinformation | Simon Hill on Food For Thought with Rhiannon Lambert

The Proof with Simon Hill

Simon Hill

Nutrition, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement, Education

4.9 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 70 minutes

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Summary

This week, I’m sharing a conversation I had as a guest on Food For Thought, the podcast hosted by registered nutritionist Rhiannon Lambert. We covered everything from protein and plant-based diets to the role of ultra-processed foods in chronic disease, and how to better interpret nutrition science in a world full of misinformation. In this episode, I cover: How to think critically about nutrition research The impact of plant-based diets on human and planetary health Protein quality and building muscle with plants The role of ultra-processed foods in long-term health Social media’s influence on nutrition discourse What phytates are and whether they matter This is a repost of my chat with Rhiannon. You can find her podcast and more of her work at rhitrition.com/podcast. Intro: The Science Behind Plant-Based Nutrition and Longevity (00:00) Simon's Journey from Sports Physio to Nutrition Science Advocate (00:35) Why Nutrition Science Requires Context and Nuance (05:12) Debunking Common Nutrition Myths with Evidence (05:59) Health Benefits of Adopting a Plant-Based Diet (15:30) Protein and Muscle: Separating Myths from Data (21:42) Key Nutrients to Monitor in Plant-Based Eating (31:21) Understanding Calories: Not All Energy Is Equal (35:56) Phytates and Mineral Absorption: Myths vs. Mechanisms (43:55) Environmental Impact of Dietary Choices: Data-Driven Insights (50:22) Fact or Fiction: Science-Based Answers to Nutrition Claims (55:02) Final Thoughts: Navigating Nutrition Science with Integrity (01:00:55) Want to support the show? The best way to support the show is to use the products and services offered by our sponsors. To check them out and enjoy great savings, visit theproof.com/friends. You can also support the show by leaving a review on the Apple Podcast app and sharing your favourite episodes with friends and family. This episode is brought to you by: 38TERA Consider 38TERA's DMN prebiotic supplement a daily multivitamin for your gut. Formulated by yours truly and gastroenterologist Dr Will Bulsiewicz. Use code PROOF for 25% off at checkout. Function Health Take charge of your health with advanced blood testing and personalised insights. Function Health provides a practical solution to track key health markers such as cholesterol, blood sugar, and more. For the first 1,000 listeners, new members get a $100 credit when signing up. Head to functionhealth.com/simonhill to claim your credit. Only available to those living in the United States. Momentous My go-to supplement brand for protein and creatine is Momentous. Get 20% off your first purchase by using the code LIVINGPROOF at checkout at livemomentous.com Eight Sleep Upgrade your sleep with the Pod 5 Ultra by Eight Sleep. Clinically validated to deliver up to 1 extra hour of quality sleep per night through temperature control and biometric tracking. Use code THEPROOF for $350 off at eightsleep.com/theproof. Try it risk-free for 30 days, with worldwide shipping. Eimele Eimele Essential 8 is a comprehensive multivitamin that is scientifically formulated to complement your plant-rich diet, increase and sustain your energy, and support the immune system, as well as heart and brain health. Follow this link for 20% off one-time purchases and subscriptions. WHOOP Whoop, the most advanced fitness and health wearable available. Your personalised fitness and health coach to recover faster, sleep better, and train smarter. Claim your first month free on join.whoop.com/simon. Simon Hill, MSc, BSc (Hons) Creator of theproof.com Host of The Proof with Simon Hill Author of The Proof is in the Plants Subscribe & Connect: YouTube Apple Podcasts Spotify Instagram: @simonhill Twitter: @theproof Facebook: The Proof with Simon Hill Nourish your gut with my Plant-Based Ferments Guide and download my Two-Week Meal Plan.

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0:00.0

Howdy friends, welcome back. Today I am very excited to share a recent conversation I had as a guest on Rianan Lambert's podcast, Food for Thought.

0:09.9

In this conversation, we cover a lot of ground from protein and building muscle as we age to fiber, the impact of ultra-processed foods on our health,

0:18.1

and why context and nuance are absolutely essential when interpreting

0:23.1

nutrition science. I really enjoyed speaking with Riannon and think that you'll get a lot out

0:29.3

of this one. Let's dive in.

0:35.2

Hello, Simon.

0:43.0

Ray, thank you so much for having me. It's great to be here. Oh, it's such a pleasure. I'm so glad we got a time because I've been looking at all the amazing things you do online and I think

0:48.2

such an incredible place to start and I think quite inspiring for our listeners would be the fact

0:53.7

that you had more of a sports

0:55.1

background, a physical, like an athlete, and then suddenly you diverted your life by looking at

1:01.4

things like chronic diseases and nutrition and quite groundbreaking things. So could you

1:06.0

give us a little bit about your background for those that don't know? Sure. I think that story arc, like many people,

1:13.4

perhaps many of the listeners, has kind of been fueled by curiosity and my own personal lived

1:20.0

experience. So I was huge into sports growing up. I played football and basketball in Australia,

1:29.7

was super competitive.

1:36.2

Thankfully, my parents drove me to all of the practices and games, which I appreciate a lot these days and may have took for granted then.

1:39.6

But, you know, I wanted to be involved in sport when I was finishing my sort of secondary school

1:47.6

studies. And so I found myself doing a degree in physiotherapy and then going down the path

1:55.6

of sports physiotherapy where I could take my interest in football and in science and work with athletes who

2:03.6

are trying to perform at their highest standard possible. And for me, that was a really

2:13.7

incredible part of learning experience, I guess, early on in my career.

2:19.1

And I was very, very fortunate to go straight into working at one of the best sports

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