Hello and welcome to this very special interview where I am joined by Dr Cornish Dale.

Did you ever go by that?

I used to, yeah, I haven't for a while, you know, I've been Roy

Roy Nationalist for four years

four plus years keeping my academic qualifications and my identity under wraps but

but now it's out there and so yeah you can you can call me anything but yeah

Dr Cornishdale's fine.

I'm so your friends have family called you Charlie. They do yeah. Okay yeah you got you know you talked about it last

time a call but mr Nick Loles outed you yeah I've had a piece done on me really it's a

right of passage almost but I'm one thing before we actually just talk about your work and history and all sorts of things, I did notice when you talked to Cole, you said it felt actually like a bit of a load off actually.

Yeah, really did. That was one of the things I, when I first sort of put my real face out there and used my real name, started using my real name on Twitter and everything. I felt, yeah, it felt liberating.

Yeah, if anything. Yeah, it really did, I mean, so I, as I told Carl, I wasn't, I was expecting to be

docked. I knew that I was on Hope Not Hate Radar. I was in the state of paper report

2023. But, and they said, you know, expect Roy Ag Nationalist

to lose his anonymity sometime soon.

The fact, they're really gunning for me, but when it it came I didn't know that it was going to come on the particular Friday when it happened and somebody just said to me in a group chat. Oh, sorry about the docks. Really? But actually I didn't I didn't feel any I didn't feel worried I didn't feel

scared I didn't feel I didn't feel anything other than actually just laugh but

just started laughing and then it was fine and it felt

it felt good and I actually I did realize that I had been carrying a mental burden

probably for the last four years really that I didn't really understand or feel that I was carrying but then in that moment once I'd shed it

I could I could I could really feel that actually it was a liberating moment and ever since it's been fine I haven't had any adverse effects really.

Brilliant.

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